One in a series of interviews with great boxers, past and present, to discuss the May 2 mega fight between the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in what is sure to be the most lucrative fight in boxing history.
Today: George Foreman, 66, former heavyweight champion of the world, won his last title when he was 45 years old, a record at the time. Foreman, who said he will be watching the fight at home, talked this week with USA TODAY Sports:
In your opinion, what does Mayweather-Pacquiao mean for the sport itself?
I think boxing has always been one champion away from being the greatest sport of all time. Jack Dempsey had this thing, there was no greater event than the heavyweight title match. Then all of a sudden, these guys disappear for awhile, and wouldn’t you know it, Joe Louis appeared. The President, everyone came to the matches. Then things died down again. Marciano held it up a little bit, until Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier I in the Garden brought the sport back again. So we’ve always been that one champion away from being the greatest sport. When that champion dies, it takes years to gather it back up again. I think Mayweather-Pacquiao can put boxing in its rightful position once more.
Boxing has always been a heavyweight-centric sport, as far as popularity. Does the fact that this is a welterweight fight diminish its impact on the sports landscape?
Not at all, because Mayweather-Pacquiao, it’s not them, it’s the conversation you’ve created. . . . They could be featherweights. It wouldn’t matter. Nothing creates a conversation out of sports like a boxing match. That’s why it’s important that it happens. Heavyweights will come back once again. But boxing can create that worldwide conversation. Everyone in the world is talking about this. I travel all over the world and everyone asks me about Pacquiao-Mayweather. It’s something they can gather together and be one way or the other. You can’t do it in baseball, football, basketball. You can only do it in boxing. I don’t think it lessens anything that they’re lighter weights.
What makes Mayweather’s style a winning style?
Floyd Mayweather is like a genius on defense. A genius. He’s lasted a long time, and it’s all because of defense. He hasn’t gotten better as a boxer, but his defense has been perfected. That’s what I like about him.
And he doesn’t get hit that much . . .
Oh, he gets hit a lot. And sadly, he gets hit in the same place as Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson and some others. . . he gets hit behind the head a lot. That’s the tragedy of the defensive style. When you’re laying on the ropes and twisting and turning, guys are already thinking, ‘get him behind the neck. Get him behind the neck.’ And no one is thinking later on, you’re really tagging the brain in the back. He gets hit a lot, but in the wrong spot.
What do you like about Pacquiao’s style?
What I like about him is I love the (relentless punching) style. And he’s clever enough to box you, too. Like against Oscar De La Hoya, he outboxed him. (De La Hoya) was bigger and taller and had a better jab and the whole thing, and (Pacquiao) outboxed him. And was able to get right in with shots, when he should have been backing off and waiting to recover, he kept hitting him with those straight lefts. I like that style.
Your account of how the fight will play out?
Mayweather is ever a slow starter. Boy, he finishes fights strong, but always concedes two or three rounds early. And because I think he will concede two or three rounds, Pacquiao, a 12-round fighter, will get Mayweather the first six rounds, hands down. Pacquiao will coast in the seventh round, and that will be even. Mayweather will come on real strong in the eighth, ninth and 10thand win those rounds. But he will not win both the 11th and 12th rounds, so I give the fight to Pacquiao 6-5, with one even, on points. I see him stealing a decision.
So if Pacquiao wins, there would probably be a rematch, right?
I really wouldn’t assume that . . . if you’re a fan, you’re pulling for Mayweather. I really don’t want any titles leaving the country anymore. And the thing is, if Mayweather loses this fight . . . I was, let’s see, 38-0 when I fought Muhammad Ali (Actually Foreman was 40-0 with 37 knockouts coming into The Rumble in the Jungle). When I lost that fight I went into a deep, deep depression. Money didn’t matter, purses, rematches, none of that mattered because I thought I’d lost me, who I am. . . . So if a fellow like Mayweather loses a boxing match, he’s not going to be able to handle that. No amount of money in the world can give you . . . there’s something you lose that’s hard to explain. Undefeated fighters, it’s hard to explain, so don’t count on a rematch at all. . . . I’ve been where he’s been and I know it hurts. There aren’t any words to (console) you, people can pat you on your back and tell you they stole the fight, you looked better, but man, you just go somewhere and don’t even know about life itself. A little simple thing like a loss. You can navigate losing a match if you’ve lost one before, which on the other hand gives Pacquiao the edge. He says, ‘if I do wrong I can lose this fight. I’ve got to win.’ He’s got to win one round after the other. Anyone can tell you Pacquiao’s going to win the first round. But all he has to do is do it again, do it again, for six rounds, he can do it.
Can Floyd turn it from a boxing match into a fight if he has to?
He’ll have to. When you look up and you’re behind six rounds, you’ve got to turn on the offense, and that’s when you can get hurt. Because like I said, he’s a defensive genius, not an offensive genius. And the only way to catch a defensive genius is to make him get offensive. And you can knock him out, make his legs wobbly. That’s what (Shane Mosley) did. Shane was making him miss, and he got off his defensive game and Mosley almost caught him. You can’t have it all. No one can have it all. I was champion of the world and was cleaning everyone out, but then it gets to be six rounds, I’m in there with Muhammad Ali, and I hadn’t perfected my defense, so what do I do? Keep turning on the offense. Next thing you know they counted me out. You can’t have it all.